Bollocks. Or not as the case may be?

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There’s a bit of controversy in the U S of A at the moment over the so called ‘bathroom bills’ that are going through several US state legislatures.

This has led to several protests by misinformed people seeking publicity, including Ringo Starr and Bruce Springsteen who have cancelled planned concerts. Frankly having seen both of them live in the past, their audiences are probably better off missing them. But I digress…

A bathroom bill is defined as “a bill that bans transvestite and pre-operative transsexual people from using a public bathroom that corresponds to their gender identity (as opposed to the sex they were assigned at birth).”

They’ve been proposed in Arizona, Nevada and Wisconsin in 2015 and this year in Tennessee and South Dakota. The current fuss is that it has just become law in North Carolina and the LGBT community is up in arms about it violating their rights.

The point is that the bill only effect pre operative transgender people, not those that have gone the whole hog and committed to their new gender. So what’s the problem? Should cross dressers and transvestites be allowed to use the ‘wrong’ toilet? Probably not. Should pre-op transgenders be allowed to use the ‘wrong’ bathroom. Who knows? And what’s more to the point, who really cares and it you were policing it, how could you tell anyway?

Excuse me sir or madam. Would you mind me examining your genitalia?” asks your friendly police person. Should prove interesting!

Nope, this is a storm in a teacup about legislation introduced by religious loonies and bigots. Just ignore it and it will go away.

Unfortunately we can’t say the same about Ringo and Bruce…

6 responses to “Bollocks. Or not as the case may be?

  1. backofanenvelope

    How about requiring men who say they are women having to produce evidence that their dangly bits have been lopped off?

  2. Kath Lissenden

    Purely from a personal perspective, and the stance of a mother and Grandmother, I have to say I would not be happy taking my child/grandchild into a public loo and being confronted with a transexual, (pre op) when I have a child in tow. Different when I am on my own, but I do not believe we should be “normalising” these things to children, teach them tolerance yes but not “normalisation” . I am aware it is different in the Ladies as we have all cubical facilities, however children do notice things and can (in a big city such as the one I live in) be heard saying loudly “MUMMY WHY IS THAT MAN DRESSED AS A LADY” . Funny that the other way around is rarely noticed by anyone. But is it really that important in the grand scheme of things not really.

    • There are cubicles in the gents too. It’s nt all pissing up the wall – so where’s the problem? Couldn’t they just use common sense?

  3. Perhaps all can be X-rayed as they enter facilities. Those with the wrong bits will be offered gender reassignment on the spot at their expense. Those that refuse should be politely denied entry or shot. Simples.

  4. “Common sense”? What are you, some kind of publicity-denier?

  5. Sigh…

    Unless people are going to do knickers inspections, how will anyone know? The majority of transwomen – pre-op or not – are indistinguishable from genetic born women. The Les Dawson in drag image is a stereotype. So anyone with any sense will ignore the bill anyway.

    The French, being somewhat more lassaiz faire about such matters, don’t care who uses what anyway… Maybe others should follow suit.

    The idea that sexual predators will crossdress to carry out their assaults is so laughably insane, no one with half a brain cell will give it more than a second’s thought before dismissing it. The evidence for such assaults is?